The muslims lived side by side with the jew for a thousand years. They were the same people and treated each other like methodists and presbyterians do today.
There is nothing incorporated in Islam about Israel surviving or not surviving.
Look at Spain where they lived side by side for 500 years when southern Spain was the most prosperous and up scale country in the world until Pope Urban in Rome called on the illiterate Christian Visigoth tribes to go down there on a crusade to kill both jew and muslim and rid the continent of those infidels. Well that's what happened. The christians burned the books in the universities of Toledo and Salamanca which were the best in Europe. It is said that there there were only 60 books in europe at the time and these were in Rome.
The works in Spain included all the writings of the Greeks.. Half were burned. Many books were saved by four Irish monks who hid them from the christian rabble who over ran Spain. There is a great book called "Who saved Civilization" which explains how lucky we were that these four monks saved some works from Greece or we would not know about concepts of democracy, etc.
90 % of the worlds jews were in Spain at that time living side by side with muslims. After the christians took it over there were only three alternatives for the jews and mulims. The had to "convert" to christianity and were called "conversos." Secondly they could pretend to convert but practice their religion in secret in their homes and these were called "occultos." The pretend to convert were also called "marranos" which are pigs in English. Or thirdly, they could flee back south into Morocco and on into what is called Arabia. The inqisition was an attempt to determine if an alleged conversion was true or not. The christians used the star chamber and torture to accomplish this.
Jews and mulims were living side by side without a problem in all Arab countries up even until today with no problem. What happened is that the first zionists started coming into the Palestinian lands in the first part of the last century and there was no problem. Then after WWII many Akanazi jews started coming in from Europe and treated both the muslims and sephardic jews as low class. Anyway as Akanazi jews swelled the population, they formed the state of Israel and they wanted more land and started taking it from the palestinians forcefully. And that's when the shit hit the fan.
You have to know the difference between Askanazi jews and Sephardic jews. Sephardic jews were those that had spread up to europe hundreds of years before and had mixed with the europeans over hundreds of years and were generally lighter in color ala Kirk Douglas whose parents were Polish jews. Sephardic were darker ala actor Victor Mature who starred in the film Samson and Delila who was a classical Sephardic looking Arabic jew. Incidently, he fit the role of Sampson perfectly as he was a Sephardic Arab jew and they wrote the bible and the tale of Sampson within it.
Some scholars question how the Askanazi came about with some saying they originally came from regular europeans who resided in the Caucasus mountains and were converted by some sephardics gypsys who wondered into their area.
In any case, the Muslims generally were much more peaceful than the more warlike Christians who undertook four crusades down to the holy lands in an attempt to claim the birthplace of Christ for the Christians and in doing so destroyed universities and cultural centers of Arabs all over the territory. The oldest university was founded in Damascus, Syria. They invented the alphabet,writing and the western religions.
Christians have been invading and killing Semitic people be they jewish or muslim for centuries up to the present Bush in Iraq and Hitler with the Jews.
It's a crazy world brought about by religious extremism that knows no bounds . "Onward Christian soldiers marching on to war" the song goes.
Type in "sephardic" in google and it will open your eyes.
I don't blame people for thinking that God's promise to the muslims that Israel will not survive is incorporated into their religion. First of all Israel did not even exist until recently. The Koran makes no reference to this "incorporation." Most Americans know little or nothing re history of the middle east and religious history.
Both jews and muslims use the phrase "anti Semitic" you know. They are brothers against our European descendants who have invaded their lands for centuries but now the brothers are fighting between themselves over land that is being taken from the palestinians.
bob White
PS Later on when Martin Luther and John Calvin branched off from Roman Catholicism which comprised the only christians in Europe, not counting the Greek Orthodox catholic church, Luther and Calvin preached hatred agains the evil , dirty, vile infested jew and muslim residents in Europe and most of the muslims left but some jew remained in their ghettos through out Europe and eventually many became wealthy and financiers as both the muslim and christian religious didn't allow the charging of interest which biblical injunction now is ignored.
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